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moonrock ([personal profile] moonrock) wrote2012-02-13 08:52 pm

The Great "Massage Therapist = Prostitute" Debate

Yesterday watching a Lifetime movie, I discovered there was a new show starting next month with Jennifer Love Hewitt with the basic premise that she plays a woman who gets divorced, is a single mom, and needs money - so she gets a job as a "massage therapist" in a "day spa" that gives a lot more than just massages.

Given my profession, this outraged me. Understandable, yes? I posted a few things on my Facebook and I may have tweeted Lifetime and JLH a few dozen times, thanks to a debate I got into with some jackass who decided to tell me that it is perfectly okay to perpetuate stereotypes when they are for entertainment.

The Facebook post was clearly a serious tone, pretty obvious that I was pissed - and my cousin (female) decided it was an opportune time to post a comment of "so do you give happy endings? lol"

Uh, right. That was totally acceptable. Great timing for it, right?

or you can view it directly here:

I eventually gave up and left it be, Kyle joined the debate, who then also gave up - my cousin is trying to argue points that were never part of the issue in the first place (yes, women are always "targets" for attacks, they are always at risk in every day situations - does that change that a television show continuing a stereotype that shows millions of people that massage therapists are prostitutes is okay? A television show that you can easily argue puts me at even MORE of a risk than the "every day" situations that every person in the world is already in?)

I was basically just like *eyerollwhatever* and then her older sister jumped in and left a post on Lisa's wall "Do CPR trainers give happy endings?"

At this point, fuck family, I am about to de-friend them both and deal with the wrath of pissing off family. And this is coming from ME. I adore my family. I've never gotten into this heated of a battle with them - they do stupid shit, I roll my eyes and get over it. This time you're arguing that LOL ITS FUNNY TO CALL YOUR PROFESSION PROSTITUTES AND LOL STEREOTYPES OH WELL THEY EXIST YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WE'LL JUST LAUGH AT IT AND CONTINUE IT.


Hay, LJ friends. What do you think about this all?

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Srsly? That's pretty ridiculous (all of it). I think the movie sounds like a bad idea, esp if it's making the "practice" look appealing and ok.

I value the help that I received from LMT's and without the help, I would have not recovered from various auto accidents. I take their work seriously and I've had one in the past short change my time and I complained. If they hold me to a high standard of professionalism as a client, I will do the same. And as massage is becoming more mainstream and popular I hope that LMT's are ok and that people don't get the wrong idea about them.

Point: One bad apple can spoil the bunch in regards to stereotypes and I wish that it'd end

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"esp if it's making the "practice" look appealing and ok."

Well, it is Jennifer Love Hewitt playing a sexy massage therapist that gives happy endings. From my male dirty minded perspective, this makes it seem VERY appealing. This is about as far from empowering women as Lifetime can get.

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It just made me so dumbfounded that she seems to think that lil ol' her making the joke isn't "continuing the stereotype" in any way and GEEZ JUST STOP BEING SO SERIOUS.

She is totally the type who just sits back and lets other people make change in the world and is like HOORAY MY FACEBOOK POST OF MY BRA COLOR HELPED CURE BREAST CANCER.

Ragetastic over here, yo.

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I read that whole thread and could not understand where Lisa thought she was coming from.

Stereotypes exist and that's the end of it? Sorry, lady, that isn't how it works.

Also, I agree that this show is a ridiculous idea, and will do absolutely no good for Lifetime, women, or LMTs.

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I'm proud of you for standing up for yourself.

And proud of Kyle for kicking ass and taking names.

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! Nobody every changes stereotypes, they just exist, oh well! But hey, if I want to battle them I should also battle all these other stupid ones that don't actually risk anyones life or puts them in danger of being in a room locked with a dude who wants you to perform sexual favors on him. TOTES the same thing.

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)

[identity profile] 2012-02-14 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
What a stupid cunt (I'm sorry, I know she's your family... but wow). Propogating stereotypes, or worse, just letting them happen, is a terrible thing!!! What about stereotypes that black people are thugs, or gay men go after little boys, or, or, or...??? It hurts every one of those people on a personal level to be so stereotyped, and should NOT be okay with any one of us!

You are in a very physical, hands-on job, and there is a certain amount of trust inherent in that position. It is a terrible thing that it has been abused by others, and is now being exploited on TV. You would NEVER see a TV show about, say, a pedophilic gay man who goes after little boys, would you? NO. BECAUSE IT IS NOT FUNNY. It is someone's traumatic life experience and should not be made fun of for ratings! Neither should the daily realities and potential threats of your job be a show for the masses!!! It's the modern-day equivalent of throwing slaves into the gladiator's arena and watching them bludgeon each other to death. IT'S COOL BECAUSE IT'S NOT HAPPENING TO US, WHERE IS MAH POPCORN?!

I think it's an even more atrocious shame that not only was this a made-for-TV movie, but it was so popular they are turning it into a series. What made it a good idea in the first place, much less the second place?!

UGH. Keep protesting, we will back you up!

[identity profile] 2012-02-15 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, your name for her is pretty accurate. It isn't the first ridiculously stupid thing that she has said/done.

She really doesn't understand that yes, she is only one of millions who make that joke and "her" stopping won't stop the millions, but hey - it's a start. Rather than continuing it, maybe stand up and say "hey, you know that isn't really what they do and it really isn't funny because it actually puts them in danger by continuing that stereotype" when someone else cracks the joke.

It's just... urg. *EYEROLL*

I totally tweeted JLH and Lifetime a few dozen times because some douche on Twitter (who I don't have ANY idea of how he found me or where he came from) decided to get into a debate over it with me and tell me that it was entertainment and I should just stop taking it so seriously. He also went to a point of telling me that it was really 'rude' of me to tweet Lifetime/JLH and that I should just simply not watch the show if I don't like it.

I seriously posted this thinking that maybe someone would be on the other side (ex: "its just entertainment, simmer down") and we could have an adult conversation about it and maybe I really was just over reacting, but it is nice that it seems everyone is agreeing with me!